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(I am)
2: 0:00:08
(we bush people didn't have them, but then good talk came and we got them. We didn't have kaunsil we were in darkness, then we got kaunsil and komiti looked after us. I didn't see them when I was big, it happened when I was small, that's when komiti looked after us, for wards 24,25 and 26, one of the grandparents got it for ward 25. Galatam got the kaunsil, I became komiti and for a long time I've just been komiti, I got the work from the old komiti. I don't know for how long, kaunsil does. If he comes he could tell you. If I see him I'll get him to write it down and I'll give it to you on Friday)
3: 0:02:08
(it's to look after people. They look after people and straighten hevis, hevis like [something with a] machete, wives, theft, with ground. If someone steals they hold them and get them to pay back with money or pigs to make wanbel, they talk to them. If there is a problem with ground they talk to them and settle with meat. If a woman steals [or the man is adulterous with her?] komiti sets the price in money and pigs and makes that public. He'll say you give that and you give that and your hevi will be finished. That's the work of komiti. We men and ladies if we make a hevi they will straighten it. If a hevi comes up I the Tolookum komiti, Evesil, Magilon, Kombumbua, Pusila we will meet and talk, maybe with the kaunsil and the magistrate we will talk. We'll get the the root of the hevi. There will be a money exchange, we'll be wanbel. That's what we komiti do. [something about showing the road], then theiving stops, komiti will talk and meat will be given and wanbel will happen. That's what we think and that's what komiti does.)
(Is komiti work hard? yes it's hard, when there are hevis it's hard. We say something and people say "I'm not paying that", "komiti is doing a bad job, only I should get meat", "he said to give meat, but we want blood". If it's a big hevi I get a big weight [nim agabi]. Some hevis they talk like that [if people followed talk we could be wanbel?])
(If you say something as komiti does everyone listen, or do some not listen? some listen, some don't, they disobey, they just talk about their hevi. Some listen to what I say and it goes well. It's like that, some listen. For our elders lots of people didn't listen, there was lots of hevis and they just left them without dealing with them. Now we're all about being wanbel and giving buai and meat)
4: 0:07:35
(I don't know, if I stop then there are lots of Tolookum kids and I don't know who will take over. Long ago government came and appointed tutul lulai, when that was finished kaunsil and komiti came. You gys should bung and there should be wanwan komiti. I'm the komiti now and I'm the only one, no one else does the same work. There wasn't a kaunsil long ago, now I'm the komiti and I look after things. I don't know who will be komiti after me, but someone will)
6: 0:09:09
(they are different, kaunsil takes letters with the thinking of the communities and takes it to the office in Josephstaal, he talks to them and works with them and then comes up and says what's going to happen. komiti stays with people here and sorts out hevis, cuts the roads [something about holes or graves?] Ebesil or Tolookum komiti both do the same work. Kaunsil's work is to take our thinking and give it to Josephstaal and the leaders can do their thing)
7: 0:10:51
(if someone kills someone here the community sorts it out, or we tell kaunsil who can take it down below, he'll write a letter and give it to the people there. Police or magistrate might come and they'd look and then hit people, set a fine in money and pigs and make wanbel. They'll come to some places, but not to others. Here we komiti sort things out with money and pigs. For us we've spoke to the magistrate wanwan time and police don't come. The magistrate wants us to sort it out, the police don't have the things to come. [The magistrate sets the fines too high and so we never get them, so we komiti, kaunsil and church leaders sort things out?] We sort out wanbel ourselves)