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(We said that we wanted to hit people, hit people and kill them. When we buried Nambi we said that we wanted to hit people and kill them. We wanted to hit the sorcerers. Ingis, Kobumbua, Tolookum and Pusila, we talked like that and so we're doing a wanbel. We did badly. So at the burial, that time is when you wanted to hit them? yes. We had bad thinking and sorcerer thinking. So at the Wasim Baganag meeting there was wanbel. Yeah, we didn't say these things, we put abagam bili on top of them) hobol nom iguwot nom hobol abagam bili hobol asam amoomung (so now we're putting a wanbel, we had the court last week and now we have this. I've heard that there's a mesil going around because of this hevi, is that right? Mesil is always going around and we just get better and go, so it's not that. We've done badly and we're putting the thinking ples klia, we want the hevi to finish, we don't want to get sick die. That's what we're thinking about and that's why we're doing it.)