Hevis at school interviews

Speaker: Aiven

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1: 0:00:00 ndugandum ab ogoo ab hulum ogoo hooyom oboogoond yam nom endet wog mee munum skul fi fain pigoond nomboo mee munum nomboo pinot ilo endet nom ta heleb igugund om wog minda minda buk obu holo pen obu holo mee mee nom oboogoond endet wog ta heleb igugund haga hobol ig ab ongoo yab pigoond yam mee munum hebigondoo oboob heleb yog esasi endet ig minda minda nomboo ta hang om minda minda nom obug eb endet nom oo yab noog angoond yam 2: 0:00:39 nagand yam hiyol ogoo nomol hooloogul nemb spak pigeb ogooloo nom neleb ogol hum mandoogoond yam wendeb habu yot lambigeb hiyol ogoo endet hooyom oboob egendee hum igugund hiyol ogoo endet hooyom ogoo yab teb honn mooloomo honn nomboo nomol hooloogul om nemb woo hooloogul ulee nom mandoogoond yam ab hulum undum nomol hooloogul nemb igu hobol undum nomol hooloogul nemb igugund? yes undum nomol hooloogul nemb musom mannasi endet, inda mot abagam bili egee hann o yot egee hann? abagam yot egee hann. inda endet onn pusilim munum heb oboob hat wok egee nagot ham nom oboob abagam yot egee hann endet nom neleb igugund 3: 0:01:42 hiyol ogoo endet nom neleb igugund ogootooloob ab hooyom oboob ab teb nomboo haga heb igugund endet mehamonn ubiyab holo ogooloo nom skul ab ogoo endet nom hooyom ab ogoo hes sann hala nom heb ogootooloob om ab hutee ogoo lagab endet hooyom ab nomboo om yago hooyom oboob igugund ab nomboo agamb heb igugund bili om agamb egendee hum agamb igugund ndugandum hooyom abasi inda ina noog hum agamb igugund endet nom neleb igugund inda ina noog lagab igugund undum skul ogoo yab oo mu egee yann? hiyol ogoo endet wogoonoong lagab igugund om hooyom mu ebeb igugund hum hooyom ogootooloob ab ogoo hum hutee heleb agamb igugund ab hulum agamb igugund hiyol ogoo endet endet nom yab ogooteleb om eeg hooyom aba oboob yaga hooyom om ebeb igugund endet nom neleb igung 4: 0:02:56 ig ingis undum hutee endet ab hulum ogoo yab hooyom endet nom heb i onn hooyom agabi oboob endet see ndugandum om hooyom wog esigee yam hiyol ogoo endet hum see iba omboo hum igugund nom mohis ab hulum ogoo endet holo his wog hooyom oboob endet mee munum hiyol egee nagand yam

Speaker: Set

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1: 0:00:00 (our kids go to the coast to attend school. The hevis we see are lack of money, lack of food, not being able to buy school fees, not being able to buy things, not being able to buy the school bus. It's a big hevi, that's it is for us. We don't have land, we can't cut a garden. Lots of kids go to school, but they leave and come back to the ples. One one stay. A friend of my sister had to come back. 2 people got a grade 8. People on the coast can send their kids to get grade 12. Lots of us give up before grade 8. We've not been educated and we have lots of thinking... Lots more of Set rambling that seems off topic.) (who were those Kovol people who got a high education? Panu got grade 11 Solu got grade 9, Muna got grade 5) 2: 0:03:21 (yes, they smoke, they drink, they steal. Some of our kids do that, some don't they stay nating. Some take women. It's not right and we talk to them, it's a hevi) 3: 0:04:00 (yes there can be fear when leaving kids at school, we're scared they'll be doing drink and drugs. He might make a reference to Adam and Eve in the garden. This hevi happened to Samuel, he hit his kid and tried locking him in the house and taking the money? Our eyes are closed and we're in darkness) (if mum and dad are scared to send their kids to school will they send them or not? If we're here in the place we wouldn't send them. Our thinking is dark and we wouldn't send them. David tells a story in Tok Pisin that I can't follow about one of their students experiencing violence) 4: 0:08:37 (Galatan got grade 12 and he serves as kounsil. There isn't town work for us)

Speaker: Ulumo

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1: 0:00:00 (when kids go to the nambis the work they do is [hit white people?] and get hevis. Some do the work well and others do badly and leave it. If they do well they keep going until they make [namag]? They eat our things [paying school fees?] [leaders see the bad and the kids leave school?]. Our kids school like that. If they're going to go well they go slowly, if they grow les of school then they'll leave it. If kids want an education it's like that. They leave their mothers [their fathers see them not doing a good job?] if there is bad behaviour they will have to leave school, a kid could be at school and their dad might tell them to stop. [if the kid stays at school they may learn to be a thief?] Probably some repetition. We've turned getting a good education into learning to steal. Some do well and learn. We take lots of kids out of school. Silas' kid left school. My kids are waiting for you guys, you'll build a school house and they'll go there. My kids left the far away schools, they're all doing nothing, I told them that you guys have come. I'm not going to put them in a far away school, they're waiting for you. Others are doing their own thing to get their kids educated. I told Domol to leave school and wait for you guys. Some left school and they don't have and education) 2: 0:03:23 (yes, all of them they get school, they drink, they get bad behaviour and mix with the wrong crowd, they steal, they all do that. So we're going to go with you guys. Some of them do that, they drink, they steal [Ningalam is laughing saying Ivan didn't do that]. [Drinking happens rarely?] you guys have some so don't drink, only a few drink. The nambis people drink, they got education, but didn't get work and they cut people and steal. Our Tok ples all does the same, Ebesil, Tolookum, us, Kombumbua, pusila, ingis. We get education, but we don't have the good behaviour like you guys, we steal and stuff. We'll build a house, some will talk well, some will straighten things) 3: 0:04:52 (yes they do that, some are afraid to leave their kids there. If someone sees that they'll tell their kids to leave school because of their bad behaviour, you won't get an education)